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Yellow Submarine
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      10-11-2005, 08:47 PM
I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone that
my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.

Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an extension
has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording device?

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Mike Foss
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      10-11-2005, 09:04 PM
"Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone that
> my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.
>
> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an extension
> has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording device?


I'd save the money on automatic recording devices and spend it
on a good parenting class at your local community college. If
this is your idea of communication, your kids are in for a very
rough life.


 
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Yellow Submarine
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      10-11-2005, 09:26 PM
"Mike Foss" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
>> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
>> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone
>> that my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.
>>
>> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an
>> extension has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording
>> device?

>
> I'd save the money on automatic recording devices and spend it
> on a good parenting class at your local community college. If
> this is your idea of communication, your kids are in for a very
> rough life.


Thank you so much for the cheap shot, but your assumptions are totally
innacurate.

Perhaps you don't have a clue as to how difficult it can be to monitor
what a kid is actually doing, as opposed to what they say they're doing.

I do.
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Mike Foss
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      10-11-2005, 09:57 PM
"Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:26W2f.284$(E-Mail Removed)...
> "Mike Foss" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:ONV2f.1625$(E-Mail Removed) nk.net
> > "Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
> >> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
> >> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone
> >> that my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.
> >>
> >> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an
> >> extension has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording
> >> device?

> >
> > I'd save the money on automatic recording devices and spend it
> > on a good parenting class at your local community college. If
> > this is your idea of communication, your kids are in for a very
> > rough life.

>
> Thank you so much for the cheap shot, but your assumptions are totally
> innacurate.
>
> Perhaps you don't have a clue as to how difficult it can be to monitor
> what a kid is actually doing, as opposed to what they say they're doing.
>
> I do.


That's exactly why I suggested a parenting class. If lines of
communication were what they should be between you and
your kids, there would be no need to covertly monitor them.

And put yourself in their place. Eventually they will find out
what you're up to. Not trusting your own kids is about the
fastest way to steer them away from what it is you're trying
to steer them towards.


 
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Bart Bervoets
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      10-12-2005, 01:19 PM
I have a friend which has been spied on as a kid.
Total paranoia now.
Be warned

Bart Bervoets
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> "Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message

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> > "Mike Foss" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:ONV2f.1625$(E-Mail Removed) nk.net
> > > "Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > > news:hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > >> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
> > >> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
> > >> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone
> > >> that my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.
> > >>
> > >> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an
> > >> extension has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording
> > >> device?
> > >
> > > I'd save the money on automatic recording devices and spend it
> > > on a good parenting class at your local community college. If
> > > this is your idea of communication, your kids are in for a very
> > > rough life.

> >
> > Thank you so much for the cheap shot, but your assumptions are totally
> > innacurate.
> >
> > Perhaps you don't have a clue as to how difficult it can be to monitor
> > what a kid is actually doing, as opposed to what they say they're doing.
> >
> > I do.

>
> That's exactly why I suggested a parenting class. If lines of
> communication were what they should be between you and
> your kids, there would be no need to covertly monitor them.
>
> And put yourself in their place. Eventually they will find out
> what you're up to. Not trusting your own kids is about the
> fastest way to steer them away from what it is you're trying
> to steer them towards.
>
>



 
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Mike Berger
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      10-12-2005, 03:47 PM
The best way to monitor your kids' phone conversations is to
have only one phone in the house, in a common area. You can
hear everything they say.

Yellow Submarine wrote:
> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone that
> my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.
>
> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an extension
> has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording device?
>

 
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      10-12-2005, 04:52 PM

"Yellow Submarine" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)...
> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone that
> my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.
>
> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an extension
> has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording device?
>
> --
> YS
>
>


2 early memories , as a small kid, obviously destined to go into electronics
1/ Unscrewing the cap off the drop cord light switch in my bedroom,
learnt with a shock that just because a switch is off it is still live if
touched in
the wrong place. I vaguely remember thinking that electricity was only
dangerous when it was being used and safe when it was not being used.
2/ Parental rows , could tell because of the elevated voices, but annoyingly
could not make out what they were about as through closed doors.
Out of a couple of long lengths of thin cotton covered wire , probably a
carbon granule microphone and a Xtal earpiece or ex-military high impedance
headphone made a crude bug. Unfortunately it worked but it didn't work that
well.

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      10-12-2005, 06:39 PM
In article <hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)>,
Yellow Submarine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone that
> my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.


> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an extension
> has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording device?


Regardless of the ethics involved, you just need to use a higher impedance
ear piece. Something like 10k won't give an audible click. Sounds like
you're using a low impedance device designed for a walkman or computer,
etc.

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      10-12-2005, 09:46 PM
Yellow Submarine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
: I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
: time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
: but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone that
: my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.

: Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an extension
: has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording device?

: --
: YS


to radio shack's website (google it) and search for the words
"telephone recorder".

http://www.radioshack.com/category.a...ord)&hp=search

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      10-12-2005, 10:19 PM
"Dave Plowman (News)" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> In article <hxV2f.231$(E-Mail Removed)>,
> Yellow Submarine <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> I want to monitor what my teen kids are saying on the telephone from
>> time to time. I've set up an extension with an earphone to listen in,
>> but when I turn it on there's an audible click on the other phone
>> that my kids will hear. Eventually they will figure it out.

>
>> Are there any ways to minimize or eliminate the cues that an
>> extension has been picked up, short of using an automatic recording
>> device?

>
> Regardless of the ethics involved, you just need to use a higher
> impedance ear piece. Something like 10k won't give an audible click.
> Sounds like you're using a low impedance device designed for a
> walkman or computer, etc.


Thank you very much for the advice and for not including a sermon.
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