4069 as an amplifier spice model?

Hi,

Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.

Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
amplifier are.

TIA

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Malcolm Reeves

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:48 +0000, Malcolm Reeves
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
>amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.
>
>Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
>amplifier are.
>
>TIA

I have a device-level model for 74HCU04, but not for 4069.

...Jim Thompson
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"Malcolm Reeves" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi,
>
> Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
> amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.
>
> Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
> amplifier are.
>

Hello Malcolm,
there has been a similar question in sci.electronics.design
in November(11/18/2004). The original postings are attached.

..SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
*Connections e s Vcc
M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
..MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
..MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
..ENDS 4069UB

Best Rgeards,
Helmut



--- Original thread from sci.electronics.design ---

"N. Thornton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) om...
> "Emoneg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:<ix2nd.53$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>
> > *********
> > .SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
> > *Connections e s Vcc
> > M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
> > M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
> > .MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
> > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
> > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
> > .MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
> > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
> > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
> > .ENDS 4069UB
> > *$
> > *
> > *************
> >
> > In LTSPICE
> >
> > Version 4
> > SHEET 1 1240 680
> > WIRE 144 160 96 160
> > WIRE 96 160 96 288
> > WIRE 96 432 144 432
> > WIRE 192 352 192 288
> > WIRE 192 144 192 112
> > WIRE 192 448 192 480
> > WIRE 96 288 48 288
> > WIRE 96 288 96 432
> > WIRE 192 288 240 288
> > WIRE 192 288 192 240
> > FLAG 192 112 VDD
> > IOPIN 192 112 In
> > FLAG 192 480 VDD
> > IOPIN 192 480 In
> > FLAG 48 288 IN
> > IOPIN 48 288 In
> > FLAG 240 288 OUT
> > IOPIN 240 288 Out
> > SYMBOL nmos 144 352 R0
> > WINDOW 0 57 39 Left 0
> > WINDOW 3 58 60 Left 0
> > SYMATTR InstName M2
> > SYMATTR Value CD4069BN
> > SYMBOL pmos 144 240 M180
> > WINDOW 0 60 59 Left 0
> > WINDOW 3 59 34 Left 0
> > SYMATTR InstName M1
> > SYMATTR Value CD4069BP
> > TEXT 336 232 Left 0 !.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M
> > GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8
> > MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)\n.MODEL
> > CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75
LAMBDA=1.87M
> > RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N
> > CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
> >
> >
> > OK, it's a bit of a hack but someone else might tidy it up.
> >
> > DNA
>
> Aha! Looks promising... now what do I do with that bit of text to make
> a component model with it? I'm putting the circuit in using circuit
> piccies, not using a netlist.
>
> Thanks, NT

You copy the text into notepad and then save the file with a .asc extension.
LTspice will then open it up as a schematic.

DNA

Hi Helmut,

Thanks. I'd missed that thread.

Malcolm

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 01:52:46 +0100, "Helmut Sennewald"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"Malcolm Reeves" <(E-Mail Removed)> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
>news:(E-Mail Removed).. .
>> Hi,
>>
>> Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
>> amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.
>>
>> Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
>> amplifier are.
>>
>
>Hello Malcolm,
>there has been a similar question in sci.electronics.design
>in November(11/18/2004). The original postings are attached.
>
>.SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
>*Connections e s Vcc
>M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
>M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
>.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
>+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
>+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
>.MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
>+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
>+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
>.ENDS 4069UB
>
>Best Rgeards,
>Helmut
>
>
>
>--- Original thread from sci.electronics.design ---
>
>"N. Thornton" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:(E-Mail Removed). com...
>> "Emoneg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>news:<ix2nd.53$(E-Mail Removed)>...
>>
>> > *********
>> > .SUBCKT 4069UB 6 1 4
>> > *Connections e s Vcc
>> > M2 1 6 0 0 CD4069BN
>> > M3 1 6 4 4 CD4069BP
>> > .MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M GAMMA=3.97U
>> > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
>> > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
>> > .MODEL CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U
>> > + PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46
>> > + CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
>> > .ENDS 4069UB
>> > *$
>> > *
>> > *************
>> >
>> > In LTSPICE
>> >
>> > Version 4
>> > SHEET 1 1240 680
>> > WIRE 144 160 96 160
>> > WIRE 96 160 96 288
>> > WIRE 96 432 144 432
>> > WIRE 192 352 192 288
>> > WIRE 192 144 192 112
>> > WIRE 192 448 192 480
>> > WIRE 96 288 48 288
>> > WIRE 96 288 96 432
>> > WIRE 192 288 240 288
>> > WIRE 192 288 192 240
>> > FLAG 192 112 VDD
>> > IOPIN 192 112 In
>> > FLAG 192 480 VDD
>> > IOPIN 192 480 In
>> > FLAG 48 288 IN
>> > IOPIN 48 288 In
>> > FLAG 240 288 OUT
>> > IOPIN 240 288 Out
>> > SYMBOL nmos 144 352 R0
>> > WINDOW 0 57 39 Left 0
>> > WINDOW 3 58 60 Left 0
>> > SYMATTR InstName M2
>> > SYMATTR Value CD4069BN
>> > SYMBOL pmos 144 240 M180
>> > WINDOW 0 60 59 Left 0
>> > WINDOW 3 59 34 Left 0
>> > SYMATTR InstName M1
>> > SYMATTR Value CD4069BP
>> > TEXT 336 232 Left 0 !.MODEL CD4069BN NMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=2.1 KP=2.9M
>> > GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75 LAMBDA=1.87M RD=20.2 RS=184.1 IS=31.2F PB=.8
>> > MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)\n.MODEL
>> > CD4069BP PMOS (LEVEL=1 VTO=-2.9 KP=2M GAMMA=3.97U\n+ PHI=.75
>LAMBDA=1.87M
>> > RD=28.2 RS=145.2 IS=31.2F PB=.8 MJ=.46\n+ CBD=47.6P CBS=57.2P CGSO=70.2N
>> > CGDO=58.5N CGBO=96.3N)
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, it's a bit of a hack but someone else might tidy it up.
>> >
>> > DNA
>>
>> Aha! Looks promising... now what do I do with that bit of text to make
>> a component model with it? I'm putting the circuit in using circuit
>> piccies, not using a netlist.
>>
>> Thanks, NT
>
>You copy the text into notepad and then save the file with a .asc extension.
>LTspice will then open it up as a schematic.
>
>DNA
>
>

--

Malcolm

Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK
((E-Mail Removed), (E-Mail Removed) or (E-Mail Removed)).
Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power
electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see:

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Hi Jim,

Thanks for the offer. I'll bear it in mind if I ever need the HC04
but for now the 4069 would suit better as the supply voltage range is
more.

Malcolm


On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:34:32 -0700, Jim Thompson
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:10:48 +0000, Malcolm Reeves
><(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Anyone know of a spice model for a 4069 buffer being used as an
>>amplifier? If there is one in pspice I can't find it.
>>
>>Or come to that, info on what the params for a 4069 used as an
>>amplifier are.
>>
>>TIA
>
>I have a device-level model for 74HCU04, but not for 4069.
>
> ...Jim Thompson

--

Malcolm

Malcolm Reeves BSc CEng MIEE MIRSE, Full Circuit Ltd, Chippenham, UK
((E-Mail Removed), (E-Mail Removed) or (E-Mail Removed)).
Design Service for Analogue/Digital H/W & S/W Railway Signalling and Power
electronics. More details plus freeware, Win95/98 DUN and Pspice tips, see:

http://www.fullcircuit.com or http://www.fullcircuit.co.uk

NEW - www.CharteredConsultant.co.uk - The Consultant A-List