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      08-12-2005, 01:58 AM

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> What are these called? and where could I buy them in various wattages,
> say
> 10w, 50 w, etc, or is it KVAs?
>
> TIA
>
> rf
>

What do you want to run?
You may not need to change the frequency.
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      08-12-2005, 04:39 AM

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> "John G" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> "RedFox" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> > What are these called? and where could I buy them in various
>> > wattages,
>> > say
>> > 10w, 50 w, etc, or is it KVAs?
>> >
>> > TIA
>> >
>> > rf
>> >

>> What do you want to run?
>> You may not need to change the frequency.
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> Thank you Tim and John.
>
> Electronics - receiver, amplifier, speakers, tape units, cine
> projector, and
> small power tools.
>
> TIA


Some of those devices need a local (110v) wall wart just like the 240
volt one that came with them and most of the rest will more than likely
run from a 110 to 240 volt transformer and be happy with the 60 hertz.
It is really not possible to be sure without seeing and reading the name
plate on each device.
Or it may turn out cheaper to buy a local equivalent device.
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      08-15-2005, 10:05 AM

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>>>What makes and models of film projectors? Many of them can be
>>>changed
>>>to run on the other frequency. Some tape recorders can also, e.g. by
>>>moving a belt to a different step on a pulley.

>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you John G, Palindr?me and Furles, for the very helpful
>> comments.
>>
>> My film projector is German made so it should be ok, though I'm not
>> sure how
>> it copes
>> with the frequency change. It's out of my reach at present so I can't
>> look
>> at it. As Furles suggested, I have a DUAL turntable that has a
>> voltage
>> switch 220-110 and a replacement pulley. The tape recorders I have
>> not
>> looked closely at but will soon. With a VCR there is a double
>> problem - the
>> TV format, in addition to the frequency difference. Another of the
>> problem
>> pieces is a Sony receiver that has a plate mark of 110 v, 60 Hz and
>> no
>> change possibility. I asked Sony about 220v 50 Hz and they said to
>> use an
>> AVR, or something like that. I asked what they meant and didn't
>> respond. I
>> did a search and came up with zillions of hits of all kinds.
>> Somehow I had expected fairly inexpensive 220 - 50 Hz => 11- 60 Hz
>> for small
>> items around 20 watts but haven't identified any.

>
> Well, domestic VCRs are effectively obsolete now anyway and new ones
> are very cheap. But I would transfer the tapes to DVDs and move on.
>
> For AVR, read autotransformer. OK, you can get autotransformers with
> switched taps that act as an "Automatic Voltage Regulator" - to allow
> for very variable utilitiy supplies. You probably won't need anything
> that complicated or expensive and a simple 220 > 110 volt
> autotransformer will do. Maplin (UK) have one rated at 100W:
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?...31899&doy=15m8
>
> Note that these do NOT change the frequency - but only the voltage. So
> typically it will change 220-50Hz => 110 - 50Hz
>
> If the Sony receiver is also a mains-driven alarm clock - you will
> have problems. It quite possibly won't keep accurate time. There is
> often a link on the clock board inside that can be made or broken to
> allow for mains frequency (much like the mechanical equivalent of a
> sleeve on a shaft or a pulley change, as I suggested for mechanical
> kit) so it may be possible to fix this - but the link is probably
> soldered and you need someone used to working with asoldering iron on
> electronics, if you aren't.
>
> --
> HTH
> Sue
>

Caution>>>>>>>
AUTOtransformers are not permitted in most 230volt countries because it
is possible to get your 110volt device connected to the 230volt hot and
a tap half way down instead of the neutral and a tap halfway up.
I would be very surprised if they are allowed in the UK but then I do
not know where you or the OP are.

Really the simplest answer to all this is to uy new devices at the new
location. (What a great excuse to update.)
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      08-15-2005, 12:59 PM
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>Caution>>>>>>>
>AUTOtransformers are not permitted in most 230volt countries because it
>is possible to get your 110volt device connected to the 230volt hot and
>a tap half way down instead of the neutral and a tap halfway up.
>I would be very surprised if they are allowed in the UK but then I do
>not know where you or the OP are.


There's no problem in the UK, as our mains supplies are polarised
and live/neutral distinction maintained into appliances.
Most other parts of Europe do not have polarised socket outlets though.

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      08-15-2005, 11:23 PM

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>> "Palindr?me" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>> Caution>>>>>>>
>> AUTOtransformers are not permitted in most 230volt countries because
>> it is possible to get your 110volt device connected to the 230volt
>> hot and a tap half way down instead of the neutral and a tap halfway
>> up.
>> I would be very surprised if they are allowed in the UK but then I do
>> not know where you or the OP are.
>>
>> Really the simplest answer to all this is to uy new devices at the
>> new location. (What a great excuse to update.)

>
>
> "Most"? I hadn't realised that, would you like to list a few?
>
> They are certainly widely available in the UK. If you would like to go
> to rswww.com and search on "autotransformers" - you would find
> everything from a few tens of watts single phase to rather larger
> three phase.
>
> The ones intended for "consumer" use have a permanent mains lead with
> a moulded on plug - the UK plug is polarised and the problem that you
> mention cannot happen unless the wiring infrastructure is incorrect.
>
> --
>
> Sue


Yes I thought afterwards I should have said SOME rather than most.

But it is still possible to buy 13amp plugs in the UK and misswire
anything. (RS pt no. 490-009 for instance)

AND some autotransformers listed by RS are commercial (rather than
consumer) with terminals to be miss wired with ease.

So my caution remains even if it is not recognised as a problem in some
countries.
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