Internet, now 20 years in Australia

Internet, now 20 years in Australia
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Cheers Don...


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On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 07:32:54 +0100, Electronworks.co.uk wrote:

> Can you imagine life without mobile phones, PCs and
> the internet?

Imagine? No need,

> I was all so different back then...

That was when there was the illusion of quality TV programs.

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Electronworks.co.uk wrote:
> "Don McKenzie" <5V@2.5A> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Internet, now 20 years in Australia
>> http://www.rogerclarke.com/II/Anniv.html
>>
>> Cheers Don...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don McKenzie
>>
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>> http://www.dontronics-shop.com/spark...ectronics.html
>
> Hi Don
>
> Thanks for this. A trip down amnesia lane. It facinates me that the
> internet is so young and yet has had such an impact on people's
> lives. It is good to see JANET mentioned as well as this was the
> first network I used to send email when at University back in 1987.
> Little did I know email would now dictate my life.
>
> Times have changed. Can you imagine life without mobile phones, PCs
> and the internet? I was all so different back then...
>

Yet people have forgotten how to communicate, go figure.

basil wrote:
> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
>> Internet, now 20 years in Australiahttp://www.rogerclarke.com/II/Anniv.html
>>
>> Cheers Don...
>>
>> --
>> Don McKenzie
>>
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>> Breakout, Prototype, Development, & Robotics Boards.http://www.dontronics-shop.com/spark...ectronics.html
>
> Hello, I bought a Commodore 64 in 1984. The internet was rudimentary
> until the Sydney Morning Herald opened up the topic. Email was
> possible tho I think it was just messaging copied from the English
> Prestel. I was friendly with a group of techies from Telecom. The
> internet came for me with the Amiga. We had an early way to get to the
> internet but as there was no server on NSW Central Coast for a while
> we had to download what we wanted and looked at it later. Remember the
> user groups? Dick Smith was the first I saw of shopping.
>
> nof

I was on Packet radio long before the internet.
Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.

Davo <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>basil wrote:
>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
>>> Internet, now 20 years in Australiahttp://www.rogerclarke.com/II/Anniv.html
>>>
>>> Cheers Don...

>I was on Packet radio long before the internet.
>Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.


I, too, was wondering about this definition of the Internet in Australia.
(Like many) I was using UUCP-based email, TCP/connection-based FTP,
and cross-Pacific telnet, well before 1989, so I wonder if the arrival
of HTTP/HTML is really just a simplifying generalization.

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Davo wrote:
> basil wrote:
>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
>>> Internet, now 20 years in
>>> Australiahttp://www.rogerclarke.com/II/Anniv.html
>>>
>>> Cheers Don...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Don McKenzie
>>>
>>> Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
>>> E-Mail Contact Page:http://www.dontronics.com/email
>>> Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam
>>> No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam
>>>
>>> Breakout, Prototype, Development, & Robotics
>>> Boards.http://www.dontronics-shop.com/spark...ectronics.html
>>
>> Hello, I bought a Commodore 64 in 1984. The internet was rudimentary
>> until the Sydney Morning Herald opened up the topic. Email was
>> possible tho I think it was just messaging copied from the English
>> Prestel. I was friendly with a group of techies from Telecom. The
>> internet came for me with the Amiga. We had an early way to get to the
>> internet but as there was no server on NSW Central Coast for a while
>> we had to download what we wanted and looked at it later. Remember the
>> user groups? Dick Smith was the first I saw of shopping.
>>
>> nof
>
> I was on Packet radio long before the internet.
> Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.

That is true of the "Popular" internet which started with the first
browsers, the "Real" internet even the WWW had been going long before that.

Chris McDonald wrote:
> Davo <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:
>
>> basil wrote:
>>> On Jul 1, 8:40 am, Don McKenzie <5...@2.5A> wrote:
>>>> Internet, now 20 years in Australiahttp://www.rogerclarke.com/II/Anniv.html
>>>>
>>>> Cheers Don...
>
>> I was on Packet radio long before the internet.
>> Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.
>
>
> I, too, was wondering about this definition of the Internet in Australia.
> (Like many) I was using UUCP-based email, TCP/connection-based FTP,
> and cross-Pacific telnet, well before 1989, so I wonder if the arrival
> of HTTP/HTML is really just a simplifying generalization.
>

Well otherwise you could say that morse code was a form of internet, or
even lighting signal fires on top of hills, I mean really, you need a
better definition of internet.

Davo wrote:
> Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.

Internet == inter-networking, i.e. connecting existing networks,
especially using TCP/IP. It was happening more than a decade
before "the web" was invented, and even now "the web" is *not*
"the Internet".

Clifford Heath.

Davo <(E-Mail Removed)> writes:

>Well otherwise you could say that morse code was a form of internet, or
>even lighting signal fires on top of hills, I mean really, you need a
>better definition of internet.

As IP can be transmitted via morse code, I wouldn't discount it.
However, I certainly wouldn't claim it *was* the internet any time before the
appearance of IP.

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On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:02:14 +1000, Clifford Heath wrote:

> Davo wrote:
>> Real internet didn't start until HTML code came along.
>
> Internet == inter-networking, i.e. connecting existing networks,
> especially using TCP/IP. It was happening more than a decade before "the
> web" was invented, and even now "the web" is *not* "the Internet".

I agree that The Internet is something specific as above. Otherwise we
end up discussing whether inter-networking started with dial up modems or
tape exchanges or early OCR of hand written letters, or ......


For me the closest was the 80's and dialing up up a BBS on a CPM luggable
for Fidonet. When I finally hit an internet connected network in the
90's, the "outside" link was only 9600 baud anyway {:-), so were were
still using BBS technology to transfer files between offices.



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